aisya humaira
(11:19:06 PM) ifir_roar slm
(11:19:42 PM) dizzie075 w'salam
(11:21:11 PM) ifir_roar apakaba
(11:22:33 PM) dizzie075 ok ja
(11:22:36 PM) dizzie075 hmmm
(11:22:39 PM) dizzie075 nk tya awk la
(11:22:56 PM) ifir_roar wat apa?
(11:23:08 PM) ifir_roar apa?
(11:25:19 PM) dizzie075 hummm....
(11:25:38 PM) dizzie075 apa pndpt awk psl alexander the great tu?
(11:25:55 PM) ifir_roar awat?
(11:26:02 PM) dizzie075 sja ja
(11:26:05 PM) dizzie075 hmm
(11:26:24 PM) ifir_roar seorang individu besar dlm sejawah
(11:27:01 PM) dizzie075 alexander the great n zulqarnain??
(11:27:39 PM) dizzie075 kalo org ckp both ni org yg sma cmna?
(11:27:52 PM) dizzie075 or org yg berbeza cmna?
(11:28:59 PM) dizzie075 hmmmm
(11:34:12 PM) ifir_roar xtau
(11:34:12 PM) ifir_roar sbb quran cerita sikit je psl dzulqarnain
(11:34:12 PM) ifir_roar bleh dpertikai kesahihannya
(11:34:12 PM) ifir_roar sejarah plak
(11:34:50 PM) dizzie075 ok...
(11:35:19 PM) dizzie075 awk pnh baca buku tjuk..."benarkah iskandar bukan zulqarnain"
(11:36:13 PM) ifir_roar para ahli sejarah pn berbeza pndpt ttg riwayat hidup alexander
(11:36:13 PM) ifir_roar so, kita amik pengajaran dr kisahnya
(11:36:13 PM) ifir_roar bg sy apa yg quran ckp dh cukup
(11:36:13 PM) ifir_roar sy diam je
(11:37:30 PM) dizzie075 hmmm
(11:37:52 PM) dizzie075 dlm buku tu ada jgak critakan pndpt ttg smua2 ni
(11:38:27 PM) dizzie075 tp agak complicated
(11:38:40 PM) dizzie075 banyak sgt
(11:38:48 PM) dizzie075 tu nk dgr gak pndpt awk
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar sptmana yg dikisahkan dlm quran
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar persoalan samaada dia alexander or x
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar bkn pkr utama
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar itu soal lain
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar kalau perkara tu sgt2 pnting, msti nabi dh jelaskn
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar sbb nama pn ahli sejarah
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar cumanya bg pengkaji sejarah, mstila diorg sgt bminat nk kaji
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar diorg mendalami bidang ni
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar so
(11:42:15 PM) ifir_roar kite kna tetapkn priority
(11:42:14 PM) ifir_roar kita bkn la org yg mndalami bidang sejarah
(11:42:15 PM) ifir_roar 1. fahami pengajaran quran ttg kisah dzulqarnain
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar 2. barula nk sibuk2 kaji hipotesis samaada dzulqarnain tu alexander or x
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar tp apapun sy pasti xde sumber yg bleh dikatakan sahih mengikut disiplin ilmu hadis bg mngatakn samaada dzulqarnain adalah alexander atau sebaliknya
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar x
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar pndpt sy simple...
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar hehe
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar knapa?
(11:42:17 PM) ifir_roar sy diam je
(11:43:13 PM) dizzie075 ok...
(11:43:15 PM) dizzie075 memahami
(11:43:37 PM) ifir_roar dia punya opinion mcmana?
(11:43:47 PM) dizzie075 xabis baca lg..
(11:43:55 PM) ifir_roar ooo
(11:44:04 PM) dizzie075 tgh mmbaca lg..
(11:44:17 PM) ifir_roar ada org kata
(11:44:28 PM) ifir_roar alexander tu bkn dzulqarnain
(11:44:37 PM) ifir_roar sbb alexander tu jahat
(11:44:43 PM) ifir_roar minum arak
(11:44:43 PM) ifir_roar berzina
(11:44:52 PM) ifir_roar ada yg kata dia homoseks
(11:44:56 PM) ifir_roar etc
(11:45:20 PM) ifir_roar tp ada yg sangkal blk
(11:45:51 PM) ifir_roar dia kata klu ikut dr segi sejarah,individu yg plg mendekati ciri2 dzulqarnain adlh alexander
(11:46:34 PM) ifir_roar adapun kisah2 kejahatan dia adalah sstu yg dbuat2 oleh org slpsnya
(11:47:03 PM) dizzie075 hmm
(11:47:19 PM) dizzie075 dlm buku ni,ada tulis ciri2 zulqarnain
(11:47:21 PM) dizzie075 ada 4
(11:47:30 PM) dizzie075 yg disebut dlm alquran
(11:47:42 PM) dizzie075 tp sya xfham..
(11:47:59 PM) dizzie075 1-prjalanannya ke arah terbenamnya matahari(barat)
(11:48:07 PM) ifir_roar x silap sy ayat 96 surah al-kahf kan?
(11:48:48 PM) dizzie075 2-terima wahyu dri Allah iaitu memilih sma ada hndak mengazab ataupn mmbuat kebaikan
(11:49:18 PM) dizzie075 3- pjalanannya ke arah terbitnya matahari(timur) dan menemui kaum yg tiada pelindung
(11:49:37 PM) dizzie075 4-membina tembok mghalang yakjuj n makjuj
(11:49:51 PM) dizzie075 tp sya x brapa fham sgt
(11:50:34 PM) dizzie075 hmm
(11:50:36 PM) ifir_roar ok
(11:50:39 PM) dizzie075 ayat brapa tu x sure
(11:50:44 PM) dizzie075 tp surah al kahfi
(11:50:49 PM) ifir_roar 83
(11:50:59 PM) ifir_roar sy dlu study psl ayat 96
(11:51:07 PM) dizzie075 ayat 86 pn ada gak kan
(11:51:11 PM) ifir_roar nk tgk dia buat aloi atau komposit
(11:51:33 PM) ifir_roar 83 start cite psl dzulqarnayn
(11:52:09 PM) dizzie075 yg point 1-3 tu sya xfham
(11:52:12 PM) dizzie075 apa mksudnya
(11:52:32 PM) dizzie075 pjlnan ke barat timur smua tu
(11:52:34 PM) dizzie075 xfhm
(11:54:33 PM) ifir_roar pastu dia dpt wahyu utk menghukum kaum tu
(11:54:55 PM) dizzie075 ter dc td
(11:55:00 PM) dizzie075 ulang balik..
(11:55:10 PM) dizzie075 xdpt msg yg awl2 td
(11:56:20 PM) ifir_roar dia punish yg jahat
(11:56:20 PM) ifir_roar dan reward org yg briman dan bramal saleh
(11:56:20 PM) ifir_roar ifir_roar: ye la
ifir_roar: dia cerita psl pjalanan dzulqarnain
ifir_roar: bgerak ke barat
ifir_roar: jumpa 1 kaum
ifir_roar: pastu dia dpt wahyu utk menghukum kaum tu
ifir_roar: dia punish yg jahat
ifir_roar: dia cerita psl pjalanan dzulqarnain
ifir_roar: bgerak ke barat
ifir_roar: jumpa 1 kaum
ifir_roar: pastu dia dpt wahyu utk menghukum kaum tu
ifir_roar: dia punish yg jahat
(11:56:20 PM) ifir_roar ifir_roar: dan reward org yg briman dan bramal saleh
(11:56:39 PM) ifir_roar pastu dia bergerak ke timur
(11:56:46 PM) ifir_roar kt situ dia jumpa 1 kaum
(11:56:56 PM) ifir_roar yg xde tmpt bteduh dr matahari
(11:57:53 PM) ifir_roar pastu dia jln plak ke 1 tmpt
(11:57:57 PM) ifir_roar antara 2 gunung
(11:58:06 PM) ifir_roar ada 1 kaum yg ssh nk dfahami kata2 mereka
(11:58:32 PM) ifir_roar diorg ni la yg mntk tlg buat 1 dinding utk halang ya'juj dan ma'juj
(11:58:58 PM) ifir_roar pastu dzulqarnain pn buat
(11:59:04 PM) dizzie075 mcm mana diorg tau psl yakjuj n makjuj??
(11:59:26 PM) dizzie075 xfhm2
(11:59:30 PM) dizzie075 plik
(11:59:48 PM) ifir_roar diorg tau
(12:00:04 AM) ifir_roar sbb diorg mengalaminya
(12:00:23 AM) ifir_roar tu sbb diorg mengadu kpd dzulqarnayn
(12:00:41 AM) dizzie075 mengalaminya???
(12:01:00 AM) ifir_roar diorg kata yajuj dan majuj melakukan kerosakan di bumi
(12:01:30 AM) ifir_roar boleh x buat 1 barrier utk slamatkn diorg dr mereka
(12:01:44 AM) ifir_roar ala...
(12:01:48 AM) ifir_roar mcm skrg la..
(12:02:00 AM) ifir_roar kita tau amerika byk menindas negara2 lain
(12:02:13 AM) ifir_roar pastu tetiba presiden rusia dtg tmpt kita
(12:02:17 AM) ifir_roar kita mengadu kt dia
(12:02:21 AM) ifir_roar sruh serang amerika
(12:02:42 AM) ifir_roar so that kita yg x terkena lg ni terselamat
(12:03:36 AM) dizzie075 hmmm
(12:04:03 AM) dizzie075 jd bkn la diorg tau yg yakjuj n mkjuj dtg dri tmpay diorg?
(12:04:14 AM) dizzie075 maf2..agak blur2 skit
(12:04:47 AM) ifir_roar sy x rase cmtu
(12:04:56 AM) ifir_roar mungkin yajuj majuj ni dkt dgn diorg
(12:05:01 AM) ifir_roar so diorg ni takut
(12:05:15 AM) ifir_roar tu sbb mntk tlg
(12:05:41 AM) dizzie075 apa yg sya xfhmn n plik...
(12:05:58 AM) dizzie075 cmna diorg leh tau ykjuj n mkjuj akan muncul dri tmpat diorg
(12:07:08 AM) ifir_roar xtau
(12:07:16 AM) ifir_roar sbb x dsebutkn
(12:07:20 AM) ifir_roar tp yg pasti
(12:07:56 AM) dizzie075 pastu napa diorg mnta zulqarnain tu bina tmbok tu?
(12:08:09 AM) dizzie075 sdngkan diorg sndiri pn xtau kan
(12:08:13 AM) ifir_roar tu x mustahil
(12:08:29 AM) ifir_roar diorg tu sape?
(12:09:36 AM) dizzie075 td kan awk ckp psl kaum yg mntk dia buat dinding tu
(12:10:03 AM) ifir_roar apa yg diorg xtau?
(12:10:30 AM) dizzie075 xtau dri mana dtgnya yakjuj n mkjuj
(12:10:52 AM) ifir_roar diorg tau psl yajuj majuj ni
(12:10:58 AM) ifir_roar dan kejahatan diorg
(12:11:00 AM) dizzie075 cmna diorg leh tau??
(12:11:18 AM) ifir_roar mcmana tu x dsebutkn dlm quran
(12:11:21 AM) ifir_roar tp x mustahil
(12:11:57 AM) ifir_roar zmn dulu pn biasa je org dpt berita mengenai negara2 or tamadun lain
(12:12:48 AM) dizzie075 ooo
(12:12:49 AM) dizzie075 ok
(12:13:10 AM) dizzie075 jd mmg betol la ykjuj n mkjuj dtg dri tmpat tu kan
(12:13:36 AM) ifir_roar maybe melalui pengembara
(12:13:36 AM) ifir_roar tp x dsebut dlm quran
(12:13:36 AM) ifir_roar byk kemungkinan ada
(12:13:36 AM) ifir_roar or pelarian drp kezaliman yajuj majuj
(12:14:03 AM) dizzie075 hmmm
(12:14:07 AM) dizzie075 ok..fhm la skit2
(12:15:42 AM) dizzie075 ok..yg point yg 2nd tu..yg psl plihan sma ada utk mengazab atau buat kebaikan tu cmna lak?
(12:16:14 AM) dizzie075 mksudnya dua2 plihan tu dia boleh buat
(12:16:41 AM) dizzie075 kedua2nya plihan tu x salah??
(12:17:09 AM) dizzie075 mana2 yg dia plih,dua2 xslah sma ada dia nk hukum or x
(12:17:15 AM) dizzie075 betolkah?
(12:18:14 AM) ifir_roar ya
(12:18:14 AM) ifir_roar sbb kaum tu dok antara dua gunung
(12:18:14 AM) ifir_roar dzulqarnain buat barrier tu smpai menutup di antara 2 puncak gunung tu
(12:18:14 AM) ifir_roar so, diorg terperangkap la kt situ
(12:19:12 AM) dizzie075 hah??
(12:19:16 AM) dizzie075 xfhmmmmm
(12:21:28 AM) ifir_roar x
(12:21:39 AM) ifir_roar dia dpt wahyu dr tuhan
(12:21:41 AM) ifir_roar utk menghukum kaum yg dia jumpa tu
(12:21:46 AM) ifir_roar kira mcm jd hakim la
(12:21:54 AM) ifir_roar sape yg bersalah sape yg x....
(12:22:29 AM) ifir_roar dtentukn oleh wahyu
(12:27:35 AM) ifir_roar dlm ayat tu ckp
(12:28:07 AM) ifir_roar org yg jahat dia punish
(12:28:12 AM) ifir_roar org yg briman dan beramal saleh dia kasi reward
(12:28:39 AM) ifir_roar so tgk la...
(12:28:43 AM) ifir_roar d kalangn kaum tu
(12:28:59 AM) ifir_roar sape buat jahat kna punish la
(12:29:05 AM) ifir_roar yg buat baik dptla reward
(12:31:12 AM) dizzie075 ooo
(12:31:15 AM) dizzie075 ok2 faham
(12:31:45 AM) ifir_roar tahniah..
(12:32:29 AM) dizzie075 pastu yg dia buat barrier tu,mmg diorg akan trperangkap diantara 2 gunung tu lah ye??
(12:32:59 AM) ifir_roar ye la
(12:33:14 AM) ifir_roar dia kata
(12:33:29 AM) ifir_roar akan smpai janji tuhanmu
(12:33:35 AM) ifir_roar ia (barrier) tu akan menjadi debu
(12:34:04 AM) ifir_roar mknanya diorg akan bebas gak la
(12:34:53 AM) dizzie075 diorg tu kaum tu ke??
(12:36:48 AM) ifir_roar yajuj majuj
(12:36:56 AM) dizzie075 ooooo
(12:37:21 AM) dizzie075 mksudnya skrg ykjuj nmkjuj tu kat dlm tu la
(12:37:33 AM) dizzie075 hmmm
(12:37:36 AM) dizzie075 dh fham
(12:37:42 AM) dizzie075 td tersilap fhm la..
(12:37:49 AM) ifir_roar ya
(12:41:35 AM) dizzie075 dpt blaja bnda bru lg mlm ni
(12:41:38 AM) dizzie075 makasihhh
(12:42:40 AM) ifir_roar tp masih ada ja stil jd misteri
(12:42:43 AM) ifir_roar ada mcm2 opinion
(12:42:53 AM) ifir_roar ada yg kata diorg ni dh keluar dh pn
(12:43:16 AM) ifir_roar so, yg lakukan kerosakan dmuka bumi skrg ni yajuj majuj la
(12:43:40 AM) ifir_roar ada yg kata amerika dgn uk
(12:43:48 AM) ifir_roar ....mcm2 teori
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